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In The Presence Of Enemies Origins
This was sent to me by Alexandre Mantovani (for addition to the DTFAQ)...
Hello folks... On this song analysis I'll try to draw parallels between DT's "In The Presence Of Enemies" and a manhwa (Korean comic book) called Priest. I'd like to begin explaining some points:
- A brief overview of Priest's plot will be given, with links to ITPOE. There won't be a deep analysis of the Priest comic book (this would be appropriate elsewhere).
- Apparently, the song is inspired on the 1st. volume of the comic book (it is possible to identify dialogues of the volume #1 extracted directly to the lyrics of the song).
- The research I've made is not yet finished, since I'm analyzing just the book volume #1. There may be direct references from other Priest volumes in the lyrics of ITPOE.

So let's get started!

About Priest: The comic book has 16 volumes and tells the story of humanity's battle against 12 fallen angels, led by an archangel called Temozarela. Despite having fought by God's side in the battle against Lucifer, Temozarela and his allies realize that God had lost interest in them, turning His attention to humanity. They then decide to rebel against God in light of God's favoritism towards the human race, descending upon Earth to 'play God' among the humans who build a temple and statues for them. For their rebellion and acts against humanity, God destroyed their temple and their statues were cast underground, with their souls being trapped within the statues. The story begins when preacher Ivan Isaacs (the hero) make a terrible mistake: unleashes Temozarela from a prison of hundreds of years. Ivan is then cast onto a cross after witnessing his only love Gena die in his arms. To end this eternal suffering, Ivan denounces God and sells half of his soul to a demon called Belial. By doing this, he gains a second chance of life and reborn as an immortal in the service of Belial, devoting himself for vengeance against Temozarela and his followers.

The song starts similar to the comic book: a narrator telling his memories from the past...
"I saw a white light shining there before me
And walking to it, I waited for the end
A final vision, promising salvation
A resurrection for a fallen man"

page 5


"Do you still wait for your God, and the symbol of your faith?"
page 6


"I can free you from this Hell and misery
You should never be ashamed, my son
I can give you power beyond anything
Trust me you will be the chosen one"

page 7


page 7 is also related to the following lines:

"I can lead you down the path and back to life
All I ask is that you worship me
I can help you seek revenge and save yourself
Give you life for all eternity"


let's continue...
"I was forgotten, a body scorned and broken
My soul rejected tainted by his blood
Beyond redemption, a sinner not worth saving
Forever taken from the one I loved"

page 8


"Servants of the fallen fight to pave the way
For their savior's calling, on this wicked day
Through a veil of madness, with a vicious blade
One man rises up standing in their way
Redemption, redemption for humanity"

This part I'd like to link with the events that happen on the next pages of the comic book. Ivan Isaacs is fighting an undead legion sent by Jarbilong, the eleventh fallen angel. Ivan, armed with a gun full of silver bullets, destroys the undead legion and has his first encounter with Jarbilong:
page 10, 11

page 12

page 13

page 14

page 15

page 17

page 18

page 19


entering ITPOE pt. 2...
"Welcome tired pilgrim, into the circle
We have been waiting
Everyone's gathered for your arrival
All the believers"

page 20


"Angels fall all for you, heretic
Demon heart, bleed for us"

There are no direct references with this lines (they illustrate Ivan Isaacs' burden told throughout the book).

"I've been waiting for you, weary preacher man
You have been expected, now we can begin
Let this hallowed day of judgment reign
I have known you father, and your sacred quest
Blessed soldier fighting, you shall never rest
I have known you but do you know me?"

page 21


"Angels fall all for you, heretic
Demon heart, bleed for us
(My soul is yours Dark Master, I will fight for you)"

Again, no direct references with volume #1... This last line is interesting though, it's a piece of Ivan Isaacs' oath made when he sold half of his soul to Belial. The oath continues:
"Dark Master within, I will fight for you
Dark Master of sin, now my soul is yours
Dark Master my guide, I will die for you
Dark Master inside"


The lyrics seem to keep focus on Jarbilong, although the comic book will show him again only at page 113:
"I cannot see his face
But I could feel his spite
A presence from the dead
Abandoned by the light"

page 113


"This shadow will consume him from within
This power that I sense
The rage behind those eyes
Is just a shrouded ghost
A spirit sealed inside
The body and the soul both threats
For they are one"

page 148

page 149

Jarbilong is talking to Armandiel, one of the 12 fallen angels. Armandiel is probably the most powerful angel, he helped Temozarela in the battle against Belial centuries before Ivan Isaacs' pilgrimage.

The hiatus between page 21 and page 113 shows a situation where undead servants of Jarbilong are awaken inside a train. This train carried some caskets, Ivan, and federal marshals that had the boss of a criminal group called Lizzie. She becomes important because of her resemblance with Gena, Ivan's lost love. A series of happenings take place, but an important moment occurs when the demon Belial takes control of Ivan's actions (who fights the undead). Links with ITPOE? Check this out:
"Don't bother trying to find them
They will be coming to you
Fight, fight and destroy
Until you can't take anymore"

page 35


"Stay, spill the blood of the rebels
They are the children of hell
Flesh of the undead
Stopping at nothing to kill
Sin, caught in a moment of weakness
Committed the greatest of all"

I couldn't find direct references in volume #1... =/

"Sold half of my soul
And now it's too late for you"

page 65


"I judge as my eyes see
I judge and I am just
For I speak of the beast
That lives in all of us
Unwelcome once, your time has come"

page 111


The following is a reference to Psalm 23:
"Lord, You are my god and my shepherd
Nothing more shall I want
Walk through the abyss into the shadow of death
Fear, there is no evil to fear now
For I know you are with me
My cup overflows with my enemies blood
I decay in the house of the lord forever, amen
Death will follow me all the days of my life"

Ivan Isaacs reads psalm 23 when he is about to save Lizzie for the 1st time.
page 100

page 101

page 102, 103

page 106


"Servants of the fallen fight to pave the way
For their savior's calling on this wicked day
Through a veil of madness, with a vicious blade
One man rises up standing in their way"

Narrative of some happenings. No direct references...

"(It's time for your reckoning)"
page 86


"My soul grows weaker
He knows and he waits
He watches over me
Standing at the infernal gates
In the hour of darkness
The moment I feared has passed
The moment I lost my faith
Promising salvation
My soul is my own now
I do not fight for you, Dark Master"

Ivan Isaacs is again tormented by Belial. A moment of revolt fills up Ivan's feelings because Belial have had tormented him with what happened to Gena. This happens before Ivan Isaacs save Lizzie for the 2nd time and blow up the train.
page 128
page 129
page 130

The song ends, but the manhwa continues for 15 more volumes telling Ivan Isaacs story and his pilgrimage seeking revenge from Temozarela. Thank you for reading this analysis, and thank you DTFAQ/DTNorway for hosting it, you guys rock!

noxon
For clarification:

http://www.tokyopop.com/P-72/

This is a real published book - and the pictures have not been photoshoped. You can easily go to this webpage and view samples that confirms it.

Ian Rowell
HAHA you beat me to it. I thought i was going to be the first to get it on the net. But ya Good Job with the lyric and page comparison Thanks a bunch.....DREAM THEATER IS GOD

lespaul
my god, how in the hell did you find this out so quickly?

Well, at least it makes more sense than Octavarium.

vinícius möller
so he just did some \"ctrl+c ctrl+v\" process from the comics speeches and he THINKS the lyrics are his. great. and then someone else still thinks they are GODS. greater.

I don\'t believe the same guy wrote voices can actually feel satisfied from just copying a book and fitting it into a song (and yet, he needed no effort in succeeding). petrucci has fallen out of any true inspiration.

I\'m still waiting for the true petrucci to come back.

Roy
Awsome!

amirabbass
wow...it is great...i was to find the meaning of this song...and i understand it here to some extent...thanks

XeRocks81
is there any way that this could all be some sort of viral marketing campaign?

sam I am
this is totally not true. This is a scam. This is just a cruel way of promoting this tupid comic book.

Bulgarian
Did Petrucci had permisson for making this plagiarism?
Hope he did...

Warsteiner
Hey guys, this is really irritating...!!!

I think that Petrucci should be ashamed...

refossil
i doubt this is a marketing scam... it's prepared on some remote site that barely anyone will see, if it is, it's a sad attempt. but, since it probably isn't, well done person who made this, i've been trying to figure this out for awhile now, and i was actually on the right track... minus this being from a manhwa. regardless, i'm impressed, thanks a bunch

Juza from the west
I think it's a great story. I don't care if it was in a comic book on the other side of the world. But it does bother me that Petrucci, a great lyricist, would use this kind of a book, or anykind of book as a basis for the story in a DT song. Whaddya you guys think? Is it a hoax?

khalil
why anyone would hate on petrucci is beyond me. get a grip. we should give him nothing but credit for going in this direction with the lyrical content. yes, it is from the comic/manga priest (i'm a big anime/manga) fan and this is actually korean manga (called manwha i beleive). it is immensely popular. There is also a live action movie coming out with gerald butler as the lead (excuse my brutal spelling)
this is not a plagerism, this is a nod to priest and its still vague enough to interpret into your own meanings. bottom line: i think its always great for us fans when prog or other artists use a medium like comics or animation to make a killer track. we all loved the tune before this and it still is one of their best all time songs.
thanks a mil guys

SilentFox
noooo! I thought Petrucci was GOD. PLEASE let this be a scam!

JR
It's not a hoax. I have these comics. Volume 1 of Priest was published in 2002, long before the song was written (obviously). The dialogue has not been photoshopped.

I didn't believe it when I clicked on this site, but now I'm convinced -- the song is indeed about the comic's characters. An unexpected source of influence... but legit.

Ryan
I can't believe you guys are bashing Petrucci for using a comic book as his inspiration for a song.

People have used books, movies, etc as their inspiration for centuries.

You don't like the song. Fine. No reason to bitch about it on the internet!

Go write your own shit and start your own band! Oh, and it might help if you spent 6 hours a day playing guitar to hopefully reach 10% of Petrucci's guitar skill!

Nathan
More proof:

On the back of the book, it says the following:

"In the frontier of the American West, a veil of evil threatens to engulf humanity. Servants of the fallen Archangel Temozarela are paving the way for their dark lord's resurrection. One man stands in the way of the apocolypse, Ivan Issacs, a fallen priest who sold half his soul to the devil Belial for the power to fight evil. Armed with a wicked blade and silver bullets, Ivan will give the heretics a baptism of blood in his Pilgrimage for humanity's redemption.

The book I'm using dosen't have page numbers, but I can guarantee the following lines being used:

"As you see, you judge. And your judgment is just."
"This is the slaughter of the damned"
"In the presence of my enemies"
"My cup overflows...with their blood. AMEN!"

the universal cynic
the dark eternal night (lyrics also by petrucci) is full of similarly stolen lines from some h.p. lovecraft story

iNQU
yea i got the comic book and its pretty much the same story, and i can confirm it

Dead Eternity
People are bashing Petruci for basing this song of a comic, while people hail Steve Harris when almost ALL the stuff he writes is blatanly about movies/books/such.

dr. salameh
hey this isnt the first time petrucci uses a book for writing his lyrics!!!!
check "under the banner of heaven" he used it to write "in the name of god" i guess the resemblance between the titles suggests so........
either ways there's no other band like the awesome DT


check another christian book called "in the presence of my enemies"

pleetf
hp lovecraft inspired a whole generation of metalheads.. i dont see anything wrong with being inspired by authors/ literary figures when penning down lyrics at all! i dont understand why the hell is everyone slamming JP for this.. Like.. the war in Iraq is surely not an orginal idea to write a song on.. but does anybody slam JL for being unorginal?

Piedra
The story is corny and lacks any basic comprehension of the Christian faith. It is a shame that such a mishandling of the characters of God, Satan and the Spiritual world is popular enough to make it to a comic book, and then to one of the greatest bands in the prog world.

If you want to learn something cool and spiritual, analyze the Genesis and read the Gospels.

lol
Well.. I'm korean who has read this comic a couple of years ago.

Yes that book lacks deep comprehension on Christianity. But there are things you need to know to understand the hatred against Christianity in the book.

As Korea was relatively underdeveloped 50~100 years ago, many western priests tried to build churches + auxiliary schools for education. That was from a purely good intention, but those schools still demand the students to worship God regardless of their religion. ( And they compose 30% of public schools , still owned by churches )

As Koreans have no right to choose schools before we advance to universities ( we just proceed to the nearest public school ) , that \'mandatory conversion to Christianity\' is horrible to some guys.. including me, including the writer of the book \'priest\'

Anonymous
Oh wow i was listening to the song as i read it thats just incredible! i say hats off to petrucci for making it into such a killer track!

Keaton
I love how Iron Maiden does a song filled with direct quotes from Rime of the Ancient Mariner and they're songwriting gods, but Dream Theater does the same thing with this manga and they're plagerisers. Plagerising would imply that anybody can do what they do... is that what you're saying? Have some respect for the art here.

Flash
Upon first listening to this song and indeed much of the rest of the album I felt it was the weakest dream theater album lyrically and I was particularly abhorred but the clunky \'my soul is yours dark master\' shite which seemed like it belonged in a Dio song. However having read this In the Presence of Enemies comes across as an epic masterwork. The point your missing is that Petrucci has taken this manga as inspiration and used its characters and events as metaphors, describing some inner turbulence in a single character, a conflict with his darker side. Tosay that Petrucci is lazy because he takes other works as influence is nothing but complete ignorance of literary history. As long as literature has been around writers have been drawing on previous stories to create their own. Just think how many great works of art have been made in reference to the bible. And its not like its the first time he\'s done it. Check \'The Silent Man\' which is heavily based on \'The Arabian Nights\'.

Levi
@Piedra

Yeah.... The bible and the gospels are really excitingand cool and spiritual...


NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Insane Rocker
Everything is inspired by something. That Petrucci used a comic book isn\'t that big a deal. Regardless of what you might think, this song is epic as hell. So kindly leave the man alone, or do what Ryan said - write your own lyrics and start a band. Otherwise, quicherbitchin.

Liens
I can't believe these guys are bitching about the song either, the song is awesome and the lyrics are too, in fact I think the lyrics of the song are way more powerful than the comic's dialogue and put to music are just awesome. Who cares if the lyrics are a reference to a comic, I think that's actually pretty cool but if you don't like it I guess you'll just have to stop being a little bitch and get over it, seriously.

heptafon
:o Do you realize that LOTS of rock music is inspired by something? This is a great song, and that's enough for me...

and even more, if Petrucci didn't write this lyric I'd never hear about that comic. That's free advertising. :D

Piedra, I don't take this lyrics seriously, that's only enterteinment.

Esteban
Who cares about the Christian faith? Both the faith and this story are fantasy anyway...

Delcio
I totally agree with Piedra

Andrew
Min-Woo Hyung > John Petrucci

elliott
John Petrucci is a guitarist. He ain't in it for the lyrics. bottom line.

Youssef
I dunno what people are complaining about, Petrucci wrote a song inspired by that book, that process is one of the best in the genre, Hetfield did it with For Whom The Bell Tolls & The Thing That Should Not Be and Mustaine did it with Five Magics.
Petrucci owns.

Anonymous
Metallica:
For Whom the Bell Tolls - Ernest Hemmingway, book of same title
The Thing That Should Not Be - H.P Lovecraft's Call of Chtulhu
Welcome Home (Sanitarium) - One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest
One - "Buried Alive" by the band Venom

And that's only a few songs, and only one band.

Troy
Bottom line, great song, especially live. This is what you call a "concept" song. Not like dream theater hasn't done this kind of thing before... I think it is musically one of their best songs, and this story only fits the overall theme of the album which is very fantastic in general. So, who cares?

By the way, don't knock the faith until you've tried it

Reivaj
\"Servants of the fallen fight to pave the way
For their savior\'s calling on this wicked day
Through a veil of madness, with a vicious blade
One man rises up standing in their way\"

All of these sentences can be found on the back of the manhwa ^_^! Where they give a brief summary of Vol. 1

So there is indeed a direct reference ^_^ <3

Reivaj
I see this song as a tribute to Priest. And i know that if i ever had a band and i read this manga i would Definitively do a tribute. Priest is amazing! Dreamtheatre is amazing! a mix of both? hell yes! i actually listened the song while reading the manhwa and it was amazing ^_^!

So all in all, amazing song, tribute to an amazing manhwa ^_^!
Dream theatre and Priest for evar ^_^ <3

Anonymous
Hammerfall did an album inspired by the Song of Ice an Fire series by George R. R. Martin titled Chapter V: Unbent, Unbowed, Unbroken. Most of the songs on that album relate in some way to the books, and in my mind just make them all that better. Artists do draw from other sources, sometimes its less obvious than others, but it definitely does not mean they are more/less creative because of it

Balkanski
Should we then say everybody who has written something about this Faustian topic has copied from an unknown Korean comics?

\"Sell me you soul for fortune and power\"

It is very naive to claim that this idea origins from a present asian comics.

Good luck with writing, though.

xlinker
The premise that In the Presence of Enemies is from a comic book is just plain stupid. I think the same guy is propagating this interpretation everywhere, including Wikipedia. The actual meaning involves the battle between faith and evil, which everyone goes through in life. Early in the song, a man of faith goes through a time of trouble and a near death experience, wherein he waits for the promise of salvation. Instead, he hears the voice of the evil one who asks, "Do you still wait for your God and the symbol of your faith?" (the cross). The man begins to question his faith and falls toward the dark side, which brings only bondage and sin. He now follows the "dark master", which is explained to be his own evil side--a side that dwells in each of us. To follow your dark master will only end in death, both physical and eternal. However, at the end of the first part, the Lord is seen through a veil of madness with a vicious blade standing in the way of the evil ones, just as he is in the final book of the Bible. In the middle of part 2, the man who fell away is seen struggling with this position, and he begins to remember the God who saved him. After the instrumental battle, his soul is weak, but he knows that the Lord stands waiting for him to come back. Despite the best efforts of the forces of evil, again the Lord is seen with a vicious blade, ready to judge Satan, his fallen angels, and all who follow their ways. In the end, the one who lost his faith again finds it. The dark master is no longer controlling his life or his fate. A fantastic song with incredible spiritual meaning!

nox
To you who contest the fact that In The Presence of Enemies is based off of the comic book, did you even look at the comic itself? There are lines and actions that are reflected -directly- in the comic books. Lyrics are lifted from the text in the comic book. This is FAR more than just a "common theme of good and evil".

DTRulez
I think this song is great, and the lyrics too. It totally fits in to the song. Also, there are plenty of stories and works of art that are similar to this story.
Me, myself for example, thinks that the story is pretty similar to the story in Star Wars: Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. You know, the part when Anakin Skywalker becomes Darth Vader. You could say that he also sold half of his soul to this dark lord (Darth Sidious) who promises him eternal life and power beyond his dreams. "The Slaughter of the Damned" could be when he is told to slaughter everyone in the Jedi temple and "The Reckoning" could be the final battle in the movie when he fights Obi-Wan Kenobi. The end of the song is also similar to the near ending in Star Wars Episode VI when Darth Vader saves his son Luke Skywalker from Darth Sidious and kills him. When he does that, you can say that he breaks free from his dark master and decides to no longer serve him, but as an expense, his soul grows weak. If you've seen these movies or at least understood the main plots, I'm sure you could tell the similarities too. Therefore, I see this song as a tribute to several things and not just an influence from a comic book.

PS: I'm not saying that the Star Wars movies are very good. I'm just pointing out some similarities.

jimson
stop being stupid, don't call any man/men God. I don't care if you are using it as a figure of speech. it's blaspheme

smturnbull88
so did they try to pull a coheed and cambria here? not bad, they should start writing their own comics then :-)

ps. dream theater rules \m/

Pearly
We should also remember Blind Guardian\'s concept album on lord of the rings. They would have short (30-130 second) tracks in-between songs that were direct quotes from the books. The fact is that he didn\'t take the comic word for word 100% of the time without adding any of his own ideas or interpretation. Hell, there wasn\'t even a girl mentioned in ITPOE, and that seems to play a big role in priest. If I write a song about Spiderman and Mary Jane, am I plagiarizing? No.

Also, to the guy who says hes waiting for petrucci\'s old lyrics, are you referring to Metropolis pt.1? ya know, the song that they wrote an entire album about, and when asked what the first song really was about and meant John said that he doesn\'t really even know any more? yeah... if you think about it, the difference between metropolis and ITPOE is that ITPOE is intelligible. Metropolis is described as a sci-fi fantasy story, ITPOE isnt sci-fi, but its is also a fantasy story. I\'d much rather John just keep doing what hes up to.

Rustius
The fact that this is all about religion annoys me a bit. I don\'t mind religious quotes and I really have no problem with people believing whatever they want but I feel a bit like I am being preached to, and that does annoy me.
I have made my own choices about religion and I don\'t need someone telling me that I am wrong. Because I know that if I did the same I would be \"intolerant\" or whatever.
I just feel like I\'m being told that if I don\'t believe that I am a \"heretic\" or something.

At the same time I do think the song is awesome.

DZaid
Well, I don't really find any problem in Petrucci inspiring his lyrics from a comic book. I find this artistic actually as they turned this story into a song.

And It ain't religious at all the way Petrucci did it, it isn't talking about God or Devil, it's talking about a "god" and a "Dark Master". Obviously, he didn't cite anything from the Holy Bible.

I find this really great and artistic from DT, such a great song. And thanks for the analysis mate ;)

Jaeger
Hey you guys blaming Petrucci, what about Neil Peart? He also writes lyrics from books. Also King Crimson they have Peter Sinfield as their lyricist.

Nothing wrong with using someone else\'s ideias to make music on them. Sometimes you are better doing only one thing instead of two or three at same time.

Anonymous
Rustius, you are wrong

CrabTasterMan
Piedra:
you say this story has a poor handling of the characters in the Christian faith. On the contrary, to my knowledge there are no deviations from characters that already appear in that religion. The characters in the manhwa (not manga, you fools. Oh, it's all the same to you? Then how would you like it if I called "comics" "bande desinee"? It's all the same, right? Americans dislike French fanciness, I know :P ) are original. I think that misunderstanding stems from equating the antagonist Temozarela to Satan. No, it is clear in the story, that Temozarela was actually an archangel who fought and won countless battles against Satan's cronies. Him and his angels put their lives on the line, for eternity, and in places far beyond the universe and in corners transcending realms. They were innocent as lambs, made to find innocent pleasure in bathing in the blood of enemies, and eating the flesh of the fallen, like baby birds devouring worms. Their service to their lord is unimaginable, and also their love and devotion. He thought he would have proven his faith to his lord with that, but was very disappointed that God didn't seem to care for his self-sacrifice, but was busy cooing humans who don't even have faith anywhere near as pure as him and the other angels.

and the writer of this article said "They then decide to rebel against God in light of God's favoritism towards the human race, descending upon Earth to 'play God' among the humans who build a temple and statues for them."

To clarify this misunderstanding. Temozarela and his 12 comrades wasn't trying to REBEL for the sake of spite per se. They just wanted to take direct action to show how flawed the humans' faith in god was, so god would care less about those unremarkable creatures. It's not necessarily a bout of jealousy, and they know it's not about winning god's love, it's just at least, stopping him from giving undeserved amount love to humans.
To do that, they simply broke a heavenly law, appearing directly in front of humankind. The humans easily turned their arrogantly-claimed-immaculate faith in the invisible god to the commands of the beautiful beings before their very eyes, and built temples and statues of the winged creatures. With this the 13 angels thought they would help god look after the angels more, but god just blasted them and their homage edifices, and banished them. That finally made the angels' concern and a bit of jealousy (more concern than spite), into full blown hatred and malice towards god.

To some Christians, the "holy" forces may be depicted doing gruesome things like eating the flesh of the fallen and finding pleasure in bloodletting of the evil ones. I will say this: if they don't seem "holy" they are just your human presumption of how "nice" heaven has to be in human terms. What's nice for you doesn't have to be present in heaven. That's forcing your own beliefs of your Christian heaven onto what may really be for your Christian heaven. God is not your bellhop. I'm anti-Christian and I have to tell you this?

CrabTasterMan
oh yeah, John Petrucci himself confirms the manwha is connected to the song. Here is an interview:

http://www.fiveeightforums.com/for-those-interested-heres-my-interview-with-john-petrucci-t38398/index.html


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